Dude, I watched like the first three episodes of that show and then lost track of it, but IT WAS KINDA HOT (and also Marian was not super-thin, I was so thrilled). I'm not at all surprised that you're into it. What is your faily pairing though, I must know.
My problem currently is Star Wars fic, which, there's a lot of pretty good prequel stuff out there, and a lot of really really unreadably awful original-trilogy stuff. And exactly one author who writes the pairing I like and does it well, and she (or possibly he, I never have been sure) doesn't post anymore. SO TRAGIC.
. It's actually a fairly popular pairing, but all the fic is G rated fluff, and that is just missing the whole point of what makes that pairing awesome.
AWWW. Star Wars always seemed like one of those fandoms that are huge but have no fic (possibly because everyone is distracted by the ten million tie-in novels). What pairing, what pairing?
I have virtually no memory of who Guy is. Isn't he villainous? If so, are the people writing the G-rated fluff high?
Yeah, I think part of Star Wars fandom's problem is male-to-female ratio among fans. The tie-in novels (which are almost all written by dudes) are great -- I stopped reading new ones about 8 years ago because they were just getting ridiculous, but I re-read my old ones all the time -- but they do not meet my needs in the area of cute boys talking about their feelings and maybe kissing a little. And where there are female fans, most of them are young and way more into the prequels. So I can have all the Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan I can eat, but nothing involving Luke at all. (Mostly all I demand is that Luke be involved, but I am especially partial to Luke/Wedge (what I am writing now) and Luke/Biggs (possibly hinted at in what I am writing now).)
I'm writing it in teeny little ff.net-sized "chapters" (maybe I will even post it on ff.net! I only ever posted one thing there and then got ashamed, it was kind of an embarrassing fic, but I did get a couple reviews and that was sort of exciting). So far I am on the fifth one.
(Could I use more parentheses in this comment? YES I COULD ()()()().)
He is the villainous guy who works for the Sheriff, yes! I and I have no idea where all the fluff is coming from. I mean, you could do a reasonable plausible fluffy AU, but not with the actual canon. In the actual canon they might act fluffy but in reality Marian would be getting ready to knife him in the back.
I'd forgotten about the male-dominated part of Star Wars fandom! Yeah, unfortunately fandoms like that tend to put out bad fic with no boy-kissing at all (although you can often find some really horrible, horrible het). And I will totally cheer you on in your fic writing endeavors even though I'm not sure who those two non-Luke people are!
Oh, man, FF is kind of amazing. I sort of stopped putting things up there for a while because trying to format a story is incredibly obnoxious, but all the fangirls there are so enthusiastic. Even if they sometimes do give really bizarre feedback.
And that would be so much more interesting that G-rated fluff, too. *face of woe*
I think basically what happens in Star Wars fandom is, if the dudes write fic at all, they keep it in a folder named "WORK STUFF" on their computers and never ever speak of it. Some of them are probably writing decent gen stuff, but those are the ones hoping that one day Lucas Licensing is going to call them up out of the blue and offer to publish, sight unseen, any manuscripts they may have, you know, stashed in their desk drawer or something.
In other news, WHAT, BLASPHEMY, how dare you not be an expert on my fandoms, lol. Allow me to give you way more explanation than you want or need.
Both those dudes are also X-wing pilots. Wedge is this guy: (http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/elsajeni/?action=view¤t=wedge.jpg)
Biggs is this guy: (http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/elsajeni/?action=view¤t=biggswithluke.jpg)
He and Luke grew up together... (http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/elsajeni/?action=view¤t=biggs-darklighter-1.jpg) ... and they are totes BFF, as you can see But then he dies in the Death Star battle, it's very tragic.
Ah, yes, the fanboys who always think they can get published! I once knew a guy in the Threshold fandom that was shocked and distraught when NBC never responded to the all the scripts for tie-in novels that he sent them (then he filed off the serial numbers and self-published, completely sure that he would sell thousands of copies).
Hey, I remember that second guy! Probably because he has such awesome seventies looking facial hair. Are these the kind of characters that get the treatment where they're not on screen for very long but get a million years of backstory in the extended universe?
Actually, Biggs' backstory was established for the movies -- they shot a whole bunch of scenes on Tatooine that included him, then cut them all out. Wedge just showed up very briefly and then started turning up in the EU, because he was one of the few surviving pilots from the movies (or at least, one of the only ones that actually had a name). Soon he grew a big dramatic backstory, and also a big dramatic, um, frontstory, and there's a whole series (10 books, I think) focused around him. Those actually are pretty much my favorite EU books. I got one of them signed once, it was super exciting.
Is there some fancy version of the SW original trilogy that has all the stuff they cut out? Because I know I've seen the extended versions of the prequels, but I think I've missed out on the original stuff.
Also, this reminds me! Do you have any good recs for EU books for somebody who's kind of a n00b to the whole extended universe? Because I keep wanting to read some, but when I go to the bookstore and see a whole shelf of different series my eyes kind of glaze over.
A lot of the stuff that was originally cut was restored for the re-releases in 1997, so unless the only time you've watched the original trilogy was on really old videotapes, you've probably seen most of it. The extra scenes with Biggs didn't get put back in, but I think you can find them on YouTube.
And shit yes, I can guide you directly to the best series. Personally, I recommend starting with Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command by Timothy Zahn, although I may be biased because those are the first ones I ever read and I was eleven at the time. (But I've re-read them since, they're still good, honest.) And if you want further recommendations, I know most of the books up until the New Jedi Order series, so I can tell you whether they're good or crap.
I probably haven't seen it, then! The only version I've got at home are the VHS tapes. And I actually do want to get the newer DVDs, since I don't actually have any way of playing those VHS tapes.
Excellent. I have all this stuff written down for the next time I go around to all the used bookshops.
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Date: 2008-10-16 03:57 am (UTC)My problem currently is Star Wars fic, which, there's a lot of pretty good prequel stuff out there, and a lot of really really unreadably awful original-trilogy stuff. And exactly one author who writes the pairing I like and does it well, and she (or possibly he, I never have been sure) doesn't post anymore. SO TRAGIC.
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Date: 2008-10-17 04:06 am (UTC)AWWW. Star Wars always seemed like one of those fandoms that are huge but have no fic (possibly because everyone is distracted by the ten million tie-in novels). What pairing, what pairing?
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Date: 2008-10-17 07:05 am (UTC)Yeah, I think part of Star Wars fandom's problem is male-to-female ratio among fans. The tie-in novels (which are almost all written by dudes) are great -- I stopped reading new ones about 8 years ago because they were just getting ridiculous, but I re-read my old ones all the time -- but they do not meet my needs in the area of cute boys talking about their feelings and maybe kissing a little. And where there are female fans, most of them are young and way more into the prequels. So I can have all the Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan I can eat, but nothing involving Luke at all. (Mostly all I demand is that Luke be involved, but I am especially partial to Luke/Wedge (what I am writing now) and Luke/Biggs (possibly hinted at in what I am writing now).)
I'm writing it in teeny little ff.net-sized "chapters" (maybe I will even post it on ff.net! I only ever posted one thing there and then got ashamed, it was kind of an embarrassing fic, but I did get a couple reviews and that was sort of exciting). So far I am on the fifth one.
(Could I use more parentheses in this comment? YES I COULD ()()()().)
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Date: 2008-10-18 01:38 am (UTC)I'd forgotten about the male-dominated part of Star Wars fandom! Yeah, unfortunately fandoms like that tend to put out bad fic with no boy-kissing at all (although you can often find some really horrible, horrible het). And I will totally cheer you on in your fic writing endeavors even though I'm not sure who those two non-Luke people are!
Oh, man, FF is kind of amazing. I sort of stopped putting things up there for a while because trying to format a story is incredibly obnoxious, but all the fangirls there are so enthusiastic. Even if they sometimes do give really bizarre feedback.
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Date: 2008-10-19 01:03 am (UTC)I think basically what happens in Star Wars fandom is, if the dudes write fic at all, they keep it in a folder named "WORK STUFF" on their computers and never ever speak of it. Some of them are probably writing decent gen stuff, but those are the ones hoping that one day Lucas Licensing is going to call them up out of the blue and offer to publish, sight unseen, any manuscripts they may have, you know, stashed in their desk drawer or something.
In other news, WHAT, BLASPHEMY, how dare you not be an expert on my fandoms, lol. Allow me to give you way more explanation than you want or need.
Both those dudes are also X-wing pilots. Wedge is this guy:
Biggs is this guy:
He and Luke grew up together...
... and they are totes BFF, as you can see But then he dies in the Death Star battle, it's very tragic.
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Date: 2008-10-20 01:55 am (UTC)Hey, I remember that second guy! Probably because he has such awesome seventies looking facial hair. Are these the kind of characters that get the treatment where they're not on screen for very long but get a million years of backstory in the extended universe?
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Date: 2008-10-20 02:05 am (UTC)Actually, Biggs' backstory was established for the movies -- they shot a whole bunch of scenes on Tatooine that included him, then cut them all out. Wedge just showed up very briefly and then started turning up in the EU, because he was one of the few surviving pilots from the movies (or at least, one of the only ones that actually had a name). Soon he grew a big dramatic backstory, and also a big dramatic, um, frontstory, and there's a whole series (10 books, I think) focused around him. Those actually are pretty much my favorite EU books. I got one of them signed once, it was super exciting.
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Date: 2008-10-21 03:14 am (UTC)Also, this reminds me! Do you have any good recs for EU books for somebody who's kind of a n00b to the whole extended universe? Because I keep wanting to read some, but when I go to the bookstore and see a whole shelf of different series my eyes kind of glaze over.
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Date: 2008-10-21 03:55 am (UTC)And shit yes, I can guide you directly to the best series. Personally, I recommend starting with Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command by Timothy Zahn, although I may be biased because those are the first ones I ever read and I was eleven at the time. (But I've re-read them since, they're still good, honest.) And if you want further recommendations, I know most of the books up until the New Jedi Order series, so I can tell you whether they're good or crap.
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Date: 2008-10-22 03:45 am (UTC)Excellent. I have all this stuff written down for the next time I go around to all the used bookshops.